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Welcome to the Authentic Pirate Living History Group, a small corner of Facebook for those who would like to "get it right" to hide from Hollywood and pop-culture "sexy" pirate girls. This is a place for discussion of the history and material culture of real, historical, pirates of the "Golden Age" (however you choose to define it, but for now let's say European/American pirates, 1690-1725 ish) and their portrayal at living history and educational events. Feel free to invite other like minded friends.

Anyone posting pictures of themselves in Jack Sparrow outfits or typing in "pyratese" will be mercilessly mocked and jeered. Please leave your bucket boots at the door.

If you have a specific question, it may already have been asked, and it's recommended that you have a quick browse through this document to see links to previous discussions. There is no harm, however in asking a question again, even if it's been answered before, because research here is ever ongoing, and it's likely that something new could be added.

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Friday November 17th, 2017 - 12:29 am

Hi giys- quick question. I've been looking at replica muskets for some time now. I found one a little while ago but the frizzen snapped because the hammer was too powerful. That was a Denix as well so I didm't expect that from them.

Anywho, how long were muskets in this period? I typically find ones that are at least 5ft 5inches long (or so). The one I'm looking at is a metre long. Could this be accurate?
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Clearly there are variations...But a 45"-46" inch barrel is about the norm for this period

Also Denix are pretty crap in just about every sense, breakages are common. It's why they're relatively so cheap.

If you don't want a firer or the hassle of a licence you can buy one that has no touch hole or is converted to fire blank rounds (they get better eve year, but still not as good as the real thing lol) Derbyshire arms nick them out and so do others www.derbyshirearms.com/

And if you're unlucky, a face full of breech. Undrilled means unproofed.

However tight money may be, i do not think it is worth penny pinching on weapons, either blackpowder or combat swords etc...the results of it going wrong can be just too serious.

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Wednesday November 15th, 2017 - 2:09 am

I made this (small) map about 5-6 weeks ago. I'll admit it's probably not 100% accurate but I think it's effective next to a superior, larger map.

Anyone else here have experience making their own props and such? What are your thoughts on mine?
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I made this (small) map about 5-6 weeks ago. Ill admit its probably not 100% accurate but I think its effective next to a superior, larger map.
 
Anyone else here have experience making their own props and such? What are your thoughts on mine?

 

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I've made some of my navigation equipment.

I've since noticed a major cock up in this map I made. I forgot the long s in some words! Damn it!

You might add longitude/latitude lines and possibly enclose the map within a border. Cartographers made specific maps and therefore created the border to begin their work.

Yes, latitude and longitude would be good. Also rhumb lines. For those you take an arbitrary piece of open ocean and draw lines from it in all 32 degrees.

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Sunday November 12th, 2017 - 11:49 pm

What exactly was salt beef? Was it just heavily salted cuts of beef, or something different? I ask because ive notice people from the time talk about eating cold salt beef and can't imagine them eating salty raw chunks of beef. ... See MoreSee Less

 

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salt was used to preserve it. I met a bunch of (Napoleonic) reenactors who had a slab of pork they had bought from an ordinary grocers that they salted themselves. It felt like a cross between plastic and a block of wood and made a wooden sound when you knocked on it. They boiled it when ready to eat it

Over here in the UK you can buy packs of sliced salt beef. very nice in a sammich!

Salt meat in terms of Maritime rations (normally pork in the British navy during this period) was cut into rough lumps of a few poundfs, and treated by a combination of dry salting and brining before packing into casks, topped up with more salt and brine. Providing the meat was reasonable inthe first place, and the preparation and packing was good, and the casks did not leak, it was a fairly good way of preserving. The meat would be soaked and boiled before serving...cold meat would have been previously cooked, and served cold, for meals without hot food, when fires were not allowed or impractical etc. Talk of old salt meat being hard would only occur if cuts of salted meat were allowed to dry out..something doubtless old salts did for effect, but not part of the standard ration/consumption cycle.a

Sunday November 12th, 2017 - 3:36 pm

Anyone here a musician? Going by my previous posts, it's no surprise I'm interested in the music from this period and wondered if anyome incorperates period music into their reenacting life ... See MoreSee Less

 

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Yep.

Heck yes!

What instruments do you play?

Present

I studied flute and opera for years, but for reenactments, it’s whistle. I may sing to myself here and there but not as a performance.

just a bit....

i play early music with bunch of small ensemble, so depending on the period: cittern, baroque guitar, hurdy-gurdy, colascione, or maurache, medieval lute, gittern and citole. Now when reenacting i often bring only one instrument. For 17thc it is usually my cittern, it is small and convenient and also i have wooden case for it, so looks less out of place in camp compare to modern case instrument

I've found the availability of music from the period somewhat hard to find . The few period pieces I found would generally have a non hysterical person's eyes glazing over . The playing of 19th century whaling music and going to Australia ( yet to be really discovered ) as "pirate music " is still somewhat hard to stomach personally . But the " public " get's it , unfortunately .

Rommel pot, and that's why my eyesight is so bad...

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Saturday November 11th, 2017 - 6:23 pm

My sister's pistol almost finished. ... See MoreSee Less

My sisters pistol almost finished.

 

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I can't wait to see the finale

Very nice

Thanks Andrew.

Lovely

Rick Allen shared Queen Anne's Revenge - Blackbeard's post to the group: Authentic Pirate Living History 1690-1730.
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Friday November 10th, 2017 - 7:11 am

Pirate Bonnet On Trial!
November 10, 1718 - Blackbeard's accomplice and pirate, Stede Bonnet, is brought to trial before Sir Nicholas Trott, sitting in his capacity as Vice-Admiralty judge in Charleston, SC. Trott had already sat in judgment of Bonnet's crew and sentenced most of them to hang. Bonnet was formally charged with only two acts of piracy, against the 'Francis' and the 'Fortune,' whose commanders were on hand to testify against Bonnet in person. Ignatius Pell had turned King's evidence in the trial of Bonnet's crew and now testified, somewhat reluctantly, against Bonnet himself. Bonnet pleaded not guilty and conducted his own defense without assistance of counsel, cross-examining the witnesses to little avail, and calling a character witness in his favor. Trott rendered a damning summation of the evidence, and the jury delivered a guilty verdict. Two days later, after treating the convicted man to a stern lecture on his violation of Christian duties, Trott sentenced Bonnet to death. For fans of Blackbeard's Pirate Jamboree on Ocracoke Island, Blackbeard Pirate Festival, Beaufort Pirate Invasion, American History TV, Pirates Among Us, Brethren of the Space Coast and the Alaskan Pirate Brethren of the Cold.

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#Pirates #NautilusProductions #Blackbeard #Documentary #StockFootage #Shipwreck #Privateer #Archaeology #EdwardThache #QueenAnnesRevenge #FriendsofQAR #NCDNCR #NCFilm #treasure #cannon #artifact #Blackbeard300 #Tricentennial #Blogbeard #Kurohige
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Wednesday November 8th, 2017 - 11:58 am

Hi group! I attended the Ocracoke Island, North Carolina Pirate Island Jamboree this past October. I had a great time and was inspired to attend in a roll next year. I'm thinking of dressing and playing the part of a British officer in the Golden Age of piracy. Is anyone have any ideas on order obtained uniform and accessories? I'm specifically looking for a good store that can get me custom fit. ... See MoreSee Less

Rick Allen shared Queen Anne's Revenge - Blackbeard's post to the group: Authentic Pirate Living History 1690-1730.
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Tuesday November 7th, 2017 - 7:07 am

Blackbeard's Guns Put Up A Fight!
Archaeologists working to dislodge 3 cannon from each other on the Queen Anne's Revenge - Blackbeard shipwreck. In the normally difficult and murky underwater conditions you can just see a cannon ball at the :59 sec mark. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjprupnBVLE. From the Nautilus Productions LLC stock footage collection. For fans of History In Pictures, Blackbeard Pirate Festival, Beaufort Pirate Invasion, American History TV, Pirates Among Us, Brethren of the Space Coast and the Alaskan Pirate Brethren of the Cold

#Pirates #NautilusProductions #Blackbeard #Documentary #StockFootage #Shipwreck #Privateer #Archaeology #EdwardThache #QueenAnnesRevenge #FriendsofQAR #NCDNCR #NCFilm #treasure #cannon #artifact #Blackbeard300 #Tricentennial #Blogbeard
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Monday November 6th, 2017 - 6:41 pm

A quick question on illness and plagues on ships of this period. I searched the topic first and found a post about plagues but I have an extention to this topic and that is the use of a flag denoting a plagued ship/ ship under quarantine. I thought it was a yellow flag and google seems to think I'm correct.

But I couldn't find any evidence to say when this practice originated. Is there any evidence to suggest it is a pre or during GAoP thing?
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Brian Carpy shared Armour Class's photo to the group: Authentic Pirate Living History 1690-1730.
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Monday November 6th, 2017 - 4:43 pm

These hangers look like they'd be nice GAoP cutlasses! ... See MoreSee Less

These hangers look like theyd be nice GAoP cutlasses!

 

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I agree. How much are they?

Normal 1640's Tower pattern

I will say what I always say about these swords. If you want a sword that will take almost any reasonable punishment without chipping or dinging or becoming an unsafe blade, while looking vaguely like the thing it's copied from, then you cannot do better than an Armour Class, and they are worth every penny. For a full-contact combat sword I wouldn't buy from anywhere else. If you want something that actually looks like a period sword then AC are pretty poor. For a correct-looking living history sword I would buy from almost anywhere else. Horses for courses. (Also, as Steve says, the ones in the picture are recognisable as 1640s 'Tower pattern' hangers, so might not be the most appropriate for, say, a 1720s impression, but AC do other designs or custom orders.)

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